Biggest difference in my eyes is that with a layoff you at least get to choose who leaves but in this case you only lose the best and most qualified.

Nice work Dell.

They're not addicted to work. Just money. In exploiting regular people - both workers and customers - by robbing their wealth. Do you think their pay is proportional to their work? How do you think they get time to socialize and scheme against plebs if they are addicted to work?

In this particular context, they insist on return to office because WFH represents a loss of returns on the investments they made on corporate real estate.

While their addiction to money is a disorder, it's as bad to the general public as people with antisocial and criminal tendencies. The only difference is that these rich sociopaths have enough capital to buy their way out of being held responsible. They won't seek help because they enjoy the harm they inflict - just like how criminals don't consider their sadism as a mental disorder. They need to be treated the same way as any other criminal - as a threat to society. And measures should be taken to prevent them from inflicting harm on normal people. Something like locking them in a cell and throwing the key away.

High five. Completely agree lol. I can honestly think of thirty years or more of other activities, hobbies and opportunities that I would actively rather pursue over a paycheck.

I feel like helping local economy is the only valid reason against work from home.

But, you know. Not like better city planning wouldn't help this.

Jesus, that sounds like hell.

Covid demonstrated that the physical presence of the staff in the office is not necessary for many types of jobs. WFH is shown to be economic, time saving and improving the work-life balance of those workers, without sacrificing productivity. It's not like any of these companies are willing to compensate the workers for the hours lost in the commute.

If you still refuse to return to the office, then you're just being lazy at that point.

That is classic gaslighting. What matches the current situation better is that the corporate overlords are being greedy AF. They are worried more about the returns on their real estate investments than about employee wellbeing, practicality and sustainability.

Remote workers are overall more productive, report a better work-life balance, and suffer less from occupational burnout. It also saves companies money because they don't have to spend as much on office space.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/intl/blog/intentional-insights/202303/the-surprising-truth-about-remote-work-productivity

My time is the most precious commodity I have. Unfortunately I'm in a career where I can't work remotely, but if I was I would refuse to go back to the office. Life is too precious to waste it sitting in traffic if you don't have to.

I'm sure many people would be much more willing to go into the office if they got paid for their commute. Even better if they got the pollution from their commute offset. Nothing lazy about wanting to be compensated for things you're doing for your employer.

COVID extremely didn't end. It's still here and still fucking people up long term. We all just decided that either 1) we didn't care or 2) the reduced risk associated with being vaccinated was good enough.

company makes remote workers ineligible for promotion

hey guys yeah it really depends on the job, sometimes you just gotta be in the office heh

did a realtor write this?

60-70% seems nuts to me. 10%-20% feels about right to me. That's a day every week or two. Builds cohesion and lets you do some effective brainstorming sessions, and then the rest of the time you do actual work far more efficiently. I mean you do you, but I thought I was suffering from lack of office time, but that's way too far in the other direction for me.

It's been 5 years and 3 jobs since I've been to an office. My last job I honestly don't even know what state my job was based out of. That's a little too disconnected. But just a little.

My uni forced us to resume in-person classes barely five months into the pandemic. No one is more productive. To this day, I’m only in the office when my contract says I have to be there. Even then, the door is closed and the lights are off. I can literally count on one hand the number of useful hallway conversations in the last four years. Generally, I’m far more productive without the interruptions and pointless random socializing.

It totally is job dependent. I have had WFH since 2009. Mostly Engineering CAD work and design feasibilities. Some peoole needed the office interaction for learning, but I already had 20 years experience so I really didn't need input until design reviews. That role changed to more consulting in 2015 and I had to be onsite to learn the clients process and products, and get differing views from each "expert". Since COVID WFH i have been solo at home again. I get way more accomplished without random coworker hellos and idle chatter interrupting my flow.